578-579 ：Mogiri no naiyou san：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:09:42 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
>I don’t know if you will like them when they love you more than you love them now.
I understand this part. Yes, I love myself, and I think I’m already satisfied. Because right now I’m thinking I’m not loved and I want to be loved. So I’m trying to love myself by loving the other person.
I’m not worried if I don’t love the other person because I love myself, so I feel safe. I really don’t know what I’m doing now. I’ve been whispering to myself since a while ago that my relationship with that person will end here. It’s my ego.
581-584 ：Mogiri no namasan：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:16:24 ID:isa5szwA0
You don’t know the ego either. So you can just kick it out and say you don’t know.
Then it’s a little different. You didn’t read the past examples.
585 ：Mogiri no namaisan：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:23:24 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
What? I don’t know. I don’t understand. I was writing about a past example, uh, pretending to understand.
587 ：Mogiri no naman-san：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:26:27 ID:isa5szwA0
It’s about a past love affair.
589 ：Mogiri no namera-san：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:30:29 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
Sorry. I don’t understand well.
592 ：Mogiri no naman：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:35:55 ID:isa5szwA0
Who do you like better, you at the time when you wondered why you were in love with that person, or you now?
593 ：Mogiri no namasan：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:36:59 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
When you say someone like that, you mean someone you don’t have very good memories of.
Let’s see, that’s me now.
597 ：Mogiri no naman：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:42:01 ID:isa5szwA0
If you could start over with that person right now, would you?
600 ：Mogiri no naman：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:45:37 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
＞If you could do it over again with that person right now, would you?
No, I mean, I don’t want to see him anymore. I don’t want him to remember me either.
604, 605 : Mogiri no naiyou-san: 2010/09/26 (Sun) 00:50:00 ID:isa5szwA0
Yes. What do you think you would think of you then when you look at you now?
If the you of then is the you of now, the you of now to the you of then is the “you who was loved by me more than the you of now” to the you of now. They don’t want to go back.
608 ：Mogiri no naiyou san：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:57:24 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
Yeah, is that what you mean?
610, 612 ：Mogiri no namera：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:59:56 ID:isa5szwA0
I’m worried about how you know what you’re doing, so tell me.
It means you don’t need to worry about loving yourself that much.
599 ：Mogiri no nenbanasan：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:44:26 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
>In other words, you don’t want to be. So you don’t love yourself any more than you do now.
Don’t want to be sad (desire) = event that makes you sad (realization)
602 ：Mogiri no nenban-san：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:47:52 ID:isa5szwA0
No, it’s not. It’s Zuko.
You don’t want to be “the one who doesn’t need to be loved by the other person,” do you?
That’s why you can’t love yourself until you become “the one who doesn’t need to be loved by the other person.
607 ：Mogiri no nana-san：2010/09/26 (Sun) 00:54:44 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
Oh, I knew it. It’s Zuko, isn’t it? Here, my head is spinning. I’m almost there.
＞What do you think you would think of me then, looking at you now?
What I would have thought then was, “Don’t fail,” or “You haven’t grown up.
609 ：Mogiri no naiyou-san：2010/09/26(Sun) 00:58:43 ID:isa5szwA0
It’s just a word. So, if you could choose between yourself then and yourself now, which would you choose? The me of now would choose the now.
611 ：Mogiri no naman：2010/09/26(Sun) 01:01:08 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
>Then I am then,
I choose to be who I am now. Because I love myself more than I did then.
(Because I thought earlier that I don’t want to go back)
613 ：Mogiri no naiyou-san：2010/09/26(Sun) 01:04:11 ID:isa5szwA0
So you’re saying that even if you love yourself so much that you don’t need a partner more than you do now, you don’t want to go back to the way you are now.
If there’s a past you want to go back to, you obviously love yourself then more than you do now.
614 ：Mogiri no naiyou san：2010/09/26(Sun) 01:07:46 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
Oh oh I get it. I see, that means I can love myself without worry.
616 : Mogiri no Name-san: 2010/09/26 (Sun) 01:15:30 ID:isa5szwA0
Yes, it’s true. I’ll go back again, but if you love yourself a lot, you will change yourself as much or more than the “you then and you now” you mentioned earlier.
You can think about what you want to do when you no longer crave their love. I think you’ll have different desires then. I don’t mean that the other person will change, I mean that you won’t be cynical.
For now, you should concentrate on self-love. Also, desire = realization.
617 ：Mogiri no nenban-san：2010/09/26 (Sun) 01:18:41 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
Yes, I have been working on this for a long time. Thank you for your long time.
> I didn’t mean that the other party would change, I meant that it wasn’t twitchy.
I was just a little unclear here.
I still have a sense of fear, but I’ll try to love myself. I understand desire = realization.
620 ：Mogiri no nenban-san：2010/09/26 (Sun) 01:23:37 ID:isa5szwA0
You’ve been holding a twisted desire now for all intents and purposes.
If you change, the desire itself will change.
I didn’t tell you because if I told you the subject would change, you would be scared again.
But the person you don’t want to remember and the person you are now are two different people, right?
I meant that the subject could change, or it could stay the same.
You’re not unhappy. Good for you.
621 : Mogiri no naijin: 2010/09/26 (Sun) 01:26:46 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
You are right on the money, orz.
But thank you very much. There are some things I don’t understand,
I will look it over again. Please let me know if there is anything else you want to say.
I apologize to everyone for using the thread for so long.
622 : Mogiri no naiyou-san: 2010/09/26 (Sun) 01:28:07 ID:isa5szwA0
So, you should read chapter 7 and the twisted one one one more time.
You’ve already changed your perception a lot now. Maybe you’ll see it differently now.
624 ：Mogiri no naiyou san：2010/09/26(Sun) 01:30:22 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
Oh, one more thing at this point that seems to have changed my perception,
I guess I can try to assume that everything in front of me was a wish, right?
Sorry if I’m wrong now.
625/626 : Mogiri no naiyou-san: 2010/09/26 (Sun) 01:31:48 ID:isa5szwA0
Zuko. That’s what it actually was, wasn’t it?
No, actually it is, even if it doesn’t show on the surface. The twisted way is the way to sear it out.
628 : Mogiri no namera: 2010/09/26 (Sun) 01:34:41 ID:ZtiP1ZR.0
Yes, that’s right. I’m going to bed now before I make you zuko again.
Thank you for staying with me for so long.
I’m sorry about that. That was it. It was.
630 ：Mogiri no naman-san ：2010/09/26(Sun.) 01:36:43 ID:isa5szwA0
Mr. 108 said that a desire is something that comes true, so he called it a notion that is holding back the fulfillment of the desire.
In other words, the idea that is holding you back = the desire, and the reality that has not come true = the desire.
The reality that has not come true = the realization of that desire.